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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
没看过原著，单就电影来说还挺好，奈绪很有风情，整体节奏和张力也不错
昨天看完已是凌晨，为叶子之死倍感难过难过，也许，叶子的坠落是对她命运最好的安排，她好似驹子的影子，时近时远，如果不是这场大火，叶子也许会成为下一个驹子。死亡不是结束而是重生，美也不与世俗同流合污。书中经常出现的“徒劳”二字，在影片中得到了一定的诠释，相对解开了我阅读时的迷惑。不过目前我还是觉得没完全看懂书和电影，后续再进行剖析吧。感觉奈绪蛮适合驹子这一角色，益生菌演岛村还是差了点岛村的内核。非常喜欢这一版的构图还有滤镜。
我真的要被笑死了。唯一一部我可以一遍看懂的A24电影了。画面好爱，笑点也好爱真的笑死我了
这一切都是为什么，看开头我还以为是什么戏中戏，《万能钥匙》协教啥的。全片最吓人表演是鳄鱼贡献的。
粗读原著。细腻动人，由外及内，觉察到身影，碰触到呼吸，体会到情绪，却始终探不清人物的样子。于是当神态遮掩，脸孔模糊，恰巧是少有的动人之时。
一星给奈绪，那种隐忍和复杂演绎的很好，一星给那漫天风雪的北国，一星给川端康成老先生的关注，男主不符合心中的形象，太过于丰腴而且情绪的变化和波动没有演出来
我承认我草率了，如果不了解川端康成、不了解日本那个时代的文学背景的话，会看的有点云里雾里，不过高桥一生独特的气质倒是撑得起来角色，那种颓颓的、玩世不恭又有点厌世的气质和嗓音，很适合演这种薄情寡淡的角色。
我想起大二读雪国的日子。一幕一幕，还在眼前。
湖边黑影究竟是人是鬼？
导演处理景这块还是到位的，但最后变推理有些破坏原著那种感觉，叶子是驹子纯净的化身，岛村是驹子热烈的幻想，是三个人也是一个人，最后的幻灭是驹子一生的幻灭，是驹子一生的徒劳罢
看完胸中郁结，不知道是因为徒劳的基调还是全篇欲说还休的碎片叙事。最后结尾对幸子苍白的前半生回顾伴随着大火下无力的嘶喊还是瞬间击中了雪国的主题。
有略微感受到那种悲伤的爱情，是日本特有拧巴的感情，那没用的"徒劳"感有传递到，但可能跟大段的独白关系很大，而且最后脑中电影去揭秘的部分却有种氛围上的破功。节奏比较慢，支撑我看下去的是奈绪的美丽和高桥一生的阴郁气质。
在A24早年的片子里，很多空镜特写都是必要的是有意义的，但现在，越发得感觉产出为了风格而风格，使剧情发展十分缓慢。故事还行，老cp看着都两百多了，身子骨还这么硬朗，可能就是凭着这股不服输的精神吧。
在我眼里，你是完美本身。就像绚烂的夏花，也像极了满月。
在A24早年的片子里，很多空镜特写都是必要的是有意义的，但现在，越发得感觉产出为了风格而风格，使剧情发展十分缓慢。故事还行，老cp看着都两百多了，身子骨还这么硬朗，可能就是凭着这股不服输的精神吧。
只能说演员选的不太适合 ，或者说主演们的气场和功底还达不到足以诠释霓虹旧时代经典作品的能力 ，田中裕子和吉永小百合不得不赞美，绝对时代尤物。整片都平平淡淡毫无亮色 。
没有看过原著，看得有些疑惑，叶子这个人物在原著里份量很重吗？电影里是看不出来，她和岛村在墓前的对手戏就一直没搞懂，来得莫名其妙。高桥的旁白很好，驹子的眼里蓄满泪水的样子太惹人怜了，没想到高良健吾也在里面，对我算是个小惊喜吧。
2022-04-23
深深的徒劳，一直永存的违和感，雪国，那是穿过隧道才能到的地方。说走就走的男人，尤其生活奢侈态度随便的。女人无法接受贫穷，最善良的人最会被磨难。虚无在力量面前也是有机会被击穿的。奈绪是越来越会演戏了，收得很到位。
比较懵逼，说了点什么，又什么都没说。雪国和奈绪都太美了，美得需要翻翻原著寻找合适的形容。但这个故事，以为会有反转，却又跟想象和展开的一模一样，可能想看一个故事这种想法本身就很不文学吧。
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